On Sunday Aug 3, 2008 my wife and I drove to Black Forest, Colorado to meet a guy who used to run an army surplus store at his house in the rolling hills outside of Colorado Springs. He had a few acres littered with old junk and tons of surplus vehicles. He had two M416 tubs and one frame/suspension assembly that he acquired from a guy who used it to pull a welder for work. So I took the tub that was less bent up, strapped it on the flatbed, and paid him $450. Not a bad deal I think.